VI, VIm, or EMACS?

[knightfoo]

No public discussion among Linux geeks is complete without a holy war between the editors. C'mon, vote! Which will be the one true editor? ;)

[keep the flames to a minimum please]

-knightfoo

[QT]

I think the choices should've been:

1. VI
2. VI
3. VI
4. uhm...VI.

:D

[knightfoo]

Oh you use that "six" editor. ;)

That's cool though, moded editors are nice for those of us with a normal amount of fingers and joints. :D

-knightfoo

[QT]

Originally posted by knightfoo
Oh you use that "six" editor. ;)

That's cool though, moded editors are nice for those of us with a normal amount of fingers and joints. :D

-knightfoo

Old school....;)


and what's with this Emacs stuff..... :p

[altp]

emacs.

a quick game of tetris while i'l working on something. not having to remember to hit ESC+: before you do a command. not having to remember to his "i" befor eyou can actually use you're editor.

Plus, tramp is real nice for editing files across servers.

Altp.

[knightfoo]

Originally posted by altp
emacs.

a quick game of tetris while i'l working on something. not having to remember to hit ESC+: before you do a command. not having to remember to his "i" befor eyou can actually use you're editor.

Plus, tramp is real nice for editing files across servers.

Altp.

I think that is what annoys me about EMACS. It isn't just a text editor .. all it needs is a kernel and it could be its own OS. I use vi and vim because if you know those two, you will never be without a text editor. Even a base install of FreeBSD has vi on it (but no bash .. go figure).

-knightfoo

[altp]

I agree, that for that reason VI is the better editor to learn. Its everywhere.

I just prefer using emacs. Actually, on my last dedicated server, emacs wasn't installed when i got it and i just left it with vi.

Knowing both is important, I just think vi sucks for everyday use ;-)

Altp.

[dhigbee]

VI, VI, and yes VI.

How's this for old school, I used to write my web pages with vi. Before all the html editors were really even around.

Hum, am I showing my age?

Don

[knightfoo]

Nah, I write web pages in vim. Most of them are in php or perl, so an HTML editor wouldn't do me much good anyway.

-knightfoo

[Ron]

emacs. Simply because that's what I started with and got used to it.

[OOagent137]

Pico anyone? I use this to write my java.

[knightfoo]

Originally posted by OOagent137
Pico anyone? I use this to write my java.

PICO has never really been popular among the open source community. It is bundled with PINE and is heavily restricted due to the UW license. UW does not allow modified binaries to be distributed, so it is difficult for a lot of distributions to provide PINE/PICO and still conform to their own filesystem standards. If you ever use a Debian system you will notice there are no binary packages for PINE .. you must download the source and build your own packages.

Licensing aside, PICO has some very nasty bugs and unpredictable behavior. One such bug is that PICO will word wrap a file after so many characters even if you tell it not to .. you could easily mess up your system without even realizing (like word-wrapping your passwd/shadow file, or something else equally important).

-knightfoo

[OOagent137]

Hmm, my problem with vim is it doesn't work correctly. It's a hard bug to describe, but basically, whenever I open a file in VI I may see text from whatever was on my console screen before I opened it. Or, after I exit, I may see the text that was last there, even though in reality it's not (b/c I can type over it and it won't be a problem or effect any commands). That sort of weird I know....but I've seen it on multiple systems.

[brent]

What about joe???? Am I the only person on the planet that uses it? :)

[spoon]

I use vi because about 8 years ago, someone sent me a quick little tutorial on it and after 20 minutes I knew pretty much everything I needed to know about it. Modal editting is awesome, esp when dealing with large source files. VIM managed to add in all the extra stuff that EMACS had that might have caused me to switch over.

brent: no, I've got a friend who uses joe religiously. So that makes 2 of your freaks out there at least (not counting Jonathan, the guy who wrote it :) ).

OOagent: sounds like you got some funky terminal settings. Before opening up VI, try running this command "export TERM=vt100" and see if that helps clear things up.